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REPOST: OWNER REVIEW: Arc'teryx Q5 Waist Pack

Subject:  REPOST: OWNER REVIEW: Arc'teryx Q5 Waist Pack

[Thanks again for the edits. A couple of quick comments on the changes
I made:

- I left the "listed" weights and dimensions exactly as shown on the
Arc'teryx site; I corrected my verified weight to show exactly what
was on my digital scale

- I didn't add a comma between "padded" and "hip", as I believe the
single comma after "adjustable" is actually all that's needed...try it
and see what you think!

- I made all other changes directly or by rewording sections to remove
the phrases in question

Regards,
Steve]

Owner Review - Arc'teryx Q5 Waist Pack
July 17, 2003

*Product information

Manufacturer: Arc'teryx
Product name: Q5 Waist Pack
Manufacturer's URL: http://www.arcteryx.com/
Year of manufacture: 2000
Listed weight: 18 oz (522 g)
Verified weight: 18.5 oz (530 g), read off digital scale
Listed dimensions: 315 ci (5 l) capacity
Verified dimensions: Approximately as stated (external dimensions
given below)
MSRP: $75 US

*Description

The Arc'teryx Q5 is a moderate-to-low-volume, sleek waist pack,
approximately 12 in (30.5 cm) wide by 7 in (17.8 cm) tall by 4 in
(10.1 cm) deep externally. The Q5 incorporates a small framesheet for
stability and has an adjustable, partially-padded hip belt.

The hip belt is a two-piece design (left and right sides) that is held
in place by a clever system of Velcro and padded flaps that also serve
as the lumbar cushioning for the pack. The two lumbar pads flip open
to reveal an O-shaped HDPE framesheet and a large field of Velcro to
which the two halves of the belt attach. This allows for a fair amount
of adjustment, including changing the angle of the belts in relation
to the pack and positioning the cushioning "squish pads" where desired
on the hips. The belt closes with a large, sturdy plastic
quick-release buckle.

The back of the pack features a Hypalon (synthetic rubber) patch
threaded with elastic cord (with a pull tab) and webbing attached to
plastic buckles on each hip. This system is meant to hold a single
water bottle or other small item secure to the outside of the pack -
more on this in my field tests below. The webbing and buckles on each
hip allow for load adjustment as well as a small level of compression
when the pack is not full. A handle or grab loop of folded webbing is
sewn to the top of the pack.

The pack zips open across the top, using one of Arc'teryx's signature
waterproof zippers (covered with a rubber-like material that
aUTOmatically closes over, and helps seal, the zipper). Inside the
main body of the pack is a single large space with a swiveling plastic
key clip at the bottom, plus a zippered, flat internal pocket on the
back face (against the framesheet).

The main body of the pack is constructed of a combination of colored
rip-stop nylon (mine is "inkspot," a medium blue, though several other
colors are now available), and plain black nylon. Another, softer
black nylon material is used to cover the foam for the hip and lumbar
padding. The Arc'teryx name and logo are stitched into the back face
of the pack. Overall, I find it an attractive and pleASIng design.

The workmanship throughout is excellent, as I have come to expect from
this manufacturer (I own two other packs and a waterproof jacket made
by them). Stitching is careful, consistent, and well-REInforced;
attachments are carefully tacked; seams and edges are taped where
appropriate; and all materials are high in quality and durable.

Arc'teryx provides a lifetime guarantee on "defects in materials and
workmanship."

*Field Tests

I have to say, I love this pack, and it gets more use than probably
any other single piece of gear I own. I have used the Q5 for three
years now, all over the United States and in Canada, from 100 feet
below sea level to 14,000 feet above, in conditions ranging from my
daily urban commute (usually on foot) to wilderness hikes,
cross-country skiing in the Sierras, and almost 300 flight hours
piloting a small plane. Weather conditions have ranged from moderate
coastal California weather to blistering desert heat, heavy rainstorms
and even a Nor'easter Blizzard.

The pack has served me admirably in all of these conditions, for many
disparate activities, and despite the thousands of miles I've put on
it, still looks essentially new. The pack is beautifully made, the
zippers and other fittings continue to operate smoothly, and all
materials (with one exception noted below) have been remarkably durable.

In addition to carrying my needs for a basic day hike or day of
skiing, it serves as my "always on me" emergency pouch when piloting a
plane. I rotate it around so that the pack rides on my lower
stomach/lap and the contents are accessible as I fly; it rides as
comfortably this way as when it's worn on my back. I've also used it
extensively in urban environments, where it doesn't stand out as an
"outdoor" pack (even though it is an outstanding waist pack for the
great outdoors).

The capacity is moderate - it's not a big pack, but it does hold a
day's snacks and extra shell or light fleece, plus a small First AID
kit and multitool. I'll add an emergency nav/com, flashlight,
sunglasses and other small items for use while flying. For urban use,
it's large enough to hold standard magazines or notebook paper (if
loosely folded in half on the longer dimension), as well as half-size
binders or notebooks and most paperback books. If you "travel heavy"
on day hikes and other walks, this might not be the bag for you, but I
find that it's more than adequate for the vast majority of day-long
needs, and I've managed to cram a surprising amount of stuff into it.

The framesheet and padded hip belt allow the Q5 to carry a fair amount
of weight yet remain stable and comfortable - much more so than other
waist packs I've owned or tried. Despite my loading the pack fairly
heavily at times, the the adjustable hip belt and "snug straps" on the
sides have allowed me to consistently set it up so that it rides
comfortably and with minimum movement or bounce on the trail. As an
aside, this design allows for other belts to be used with the pack - I
have considered removing the hip belt, strapping the Q5 onto a larger
pack as an extra pocket for an extended trip, then using the larger
pack's hip belt on the Q5 for day hikes. If I test this, I'll post an
update to this review.

The waterproof zipper has remained smooth and trouble-free for the
entire three years I've had the pack. Since the pack itself is not
advertised as truly waterproof, I initially thought that this zipper
was overkill or a gimmick, but I have discovered over time that it has
the additional benefit of keeping dust, dirt and other materials out
of the zipper teeth, which I believe has contributed to the longevity
of the pack. Also, despite the lack of waterproofness claims and some
pretty serious weather conditions, I've never had the contents of my
Q5 get wet.

I have only a few complaints about the design. One is with the water
holder on the back of the pack - it is designed in a way that makes it
possible for bottles to slip out fairly easily. This is because the
sleeve is not particularly deep, and one must be careful to tighten
the shock cord properly, ideally around a narrow point at the top of a
bottle, to hold the bottle firmly in place. Only moderately- or
smaller-sized bottles seem to curve at the right spot for this.

The other very minor quibble is with the key clip inside the pack.
It's at the very bottom of the pack, which seems like an odd place for
many reasons: first, it is just about the most inaccessible spot in
the pack, so if you need your keys handy, this is not the place to
clip them; second, it's slightly bulky, and with keys attached of
course becomes more so. This takes up a bit of room that would be
better put to other uses. I would prefer if the clip were on the
inside top of the pack near the back of the zipper, or inside the
internal zippered pocket.

The only material failure the pack has had is a minor issue with the
framesheet. The design has a stress point where the lumbar flaps, hip
belt, and rivet point for the frame sheet coincide, and my pack's
framesheet cracked there, where the sheet bridges a gap.

Arc'teryx appears to heavily push for consumers to pass all warranty
claims through the retailer where the item was purchased. The retailer
I used is out of business, and it took a little back and forth for me
to get my claim regarding the framesheet handled directly through
Arc'teryx. Once I reached the right person, they told me they'd had a
"bad batch" of framesheets at one point, and immediately issued an RMA
so I could send the pack back for repair or replacement. The pack is
currently in their hands, so I'll let the group know how this turns
out. In the meantime, I'll be missing my Q5!

*Summary

A durable, comfortable, good-looking, high-quality waist pack suitable
for day hikes, skiing and other activities where bulk or high volume
are not necessary.

Plusses:
- High quality, durable materials
- Impeccable workmanship
- Comfortable and stable due to hip belt design, framesheet and padding
- Adjustable belt angle and configuration
- Appearance and design appealing and appropriate for many
environments and activities

Minuses:
- Expensive
- Slightly awkward bottle holder
- Questionable placement of key clip

*Reviewer's Information

Name: Steve Nelson
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Height: 5' 9" (1.75 Meters)
Weight: 163 Pounds (74 Kilograms)
Email address: nazdarovye at y..oo dot com
City, State, Country: San Francisco, CA, U.S.A.

Backpacking Background:

As an interface design and usability consultant by trade, I'm always
excited by analyzing and improving designs and processes; backpacking
provides a fertile and fun arena for that. I have been backpacking
since I was a kid growing up in upstate New York: we backpacked and
canoe-camped in all seasons, throughout the Adirondacks and nearby
areas, ranging as far as La Verendrye Wildlife Reserve, Quebec. As an
adult, I've backpacked and hiked extensively in California, but also
have taken trips throughout the West, from New Mexico to British
Columbia, and return often to the Adirondacks.

I enjoy fast urban strolls, cross-country skiing and aviation in
addition to hiking and backpacking, so my gear gets exposed to a wide
variety of uses and conditions. In the last year I began eduCATing
myself about lightweight and ultralight backpacking, and have been
applying more and more of this philosophy to my outdoor jaunts and
gear upgrades.

[ 本帖最后由 clone 于 2007-11-6 15:49 编辑 ]
看得眼花。。。楼主对鸟的腰包真是情有独钟
楼主给翻过来吧  看的迷糊的
懒得仔细看的看Summary就可以了

*Summary

A durable, comfortable, good-looking, high-quality waist pack suitable
for day hikes, skiing and other activities where bulk or high volume
are not necessary.

Plusses:
- High quality, durable materials
- Impeccable workmanship
- Comfortable and stable due to hip belt design, framesheet and padding
- Adjustable belt angle and configuration
- Appearance and design appealing and appropriate for many
environments and activities

Minuses:
- Expensive
- Slightly awkward bottle holder
- Questionable placement of key clip
太欺负人了  看不懂
Minuses:
- Expensive

这个是重点.
看的头晕,反正就知道贵
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